Uhhh

Citing "It has Kikimora abuse Luz being a jerk etc!" as a reason For the Future is bad implies you don't like the way she's portrayed in this episode

@Astro350 maybe you're right?

I just wanna talk Luz down and tell her she's a horrible person everytime I see that episode! I'm talking about Luz being a horrible person.

Poor Kiki.

*pets Kikimora's head gently*

You do realize Kikimora tried to kill her on several occasions right?

You can't just excuse Kikimora's crimes because she's smol and cute (even then I only find her to be one of those things)

@Astro350

* Holds Kikimora gently and glares at you*

I don't care about Luz at all.

Because Luz is not cool smart cute or smol etc.

I just don't mind Luz's voice that's it.

I don't know whether to love Hunter or not and that's it Kiki didn't wrong anyone except them and I either don't care or feel conflicted about them.

Also Kikimora is my favorite character why should I not excuse everything Luz threatened Kikimora before she did anything wrong she didn't know it was Kikimora behind the petrification .

And yes I realize but Luz started it.

Kikimora would have committed attempted murder regardless of Luz threatening her. Do you have any good defense for Kikimora that's not "sHe CuTe" and "Luz threatened her that one time in order to save the lives of those she cares about"

@Astro350

Shh Kikimora it's ok.

* Kikimora calms down *

I have plenty but I'll use these defenses.

Her family clearly doesn't love her she was manipulated by Belos she's smol she's cute she's not that evil she's mistreated etc.

Classic tragic backstory defenses

Tragic backstories don't justify bad actions.

Want a mainstream example of an antagonist getting rewarded for bad behavior and why rewarding a villain because "tragic backstory" is bad writing? Toy Story 4. Gabby Gabby kidnaps Forky, tries to rip out Woody's voice box by force, yet despite this the movie rewards her by having her emotionally manipulate Woody because "sHe jUsT wAnTeD tO bE pLaYed wiTh uWu" You know who else wanted to be loved by a kid? Lotso and Stinky pete yet I don't see anyone defending their actions. Sad backstory isn't enough to justify an antagonist's actions

@Astro350

Then people need to stop defending The Collector! Kikimora is my favorite character so don't expect me to change please.

The Collector is different because as stated by the titan, the Collector being trapped was a mistake on his part, also the Collector is a kid, obviously he still has growing up to do. I'm not defending what he did in King's Tide and FtF but Luz steered him in the right direction and the Collector acknowledged he still has growing up to do. Luz tried to help Kikimora get back to her family yet the second she recieved a higher status of power she changed her mind she went completely power hungry and showed her true colors.