And yes I realize but Luz started it.

Kikimora would have committed attempted murder regardless of Luz threatening her. Do you have any good defense for Kikimora that's not "sHe CuTe" and "Luz threatened her that one time in order to save the lives of those she cares about"

@Astro350

Shh Kikimora it's ok.

* Kikimora calms down *

I have plenty but I'll use these defenses.

Her family clearly doesn't love her she was manipulated by Belos she's smol she's cute she's not that evil she's mistreated etc.

Classic tragic backstory defenses

Tragic backstories don't justify bad actions.

Want a mainstream example of an antagonist getting rewarded for bad behavior and why rewarding a villain because "tragic backstory" is bad writing? Toy Story 4. Gabby Gabby kidnaps Forky, tries to rip out Woody's voice box by force, yet despite this the movie rewards her by having her emotionally manipulate Woody because "sHe jUsT wAnTeD tO bE pLaYed wiTh uWu" You know who else wanted to be loved by a kid? Lotso and Stinky pete yet I don't see anyone defending their actions. Sad backstory isn't enough to justify an antagonist's actions

@Astro350

Then people need to stop defending The Collector! Kikimora is my favorite character so don't expect me to change please.

The Collector is different because as stated by the titan, the Collector being trapped was a mistake on his part, also the Collector is a kid, obviously he still has growing up to do. I'm not defending what he did in King's Tide and FtF but Luz steered him in the right direction and the Collector acknowledged he still has growing up to do. Luz tried to help Kikimora get back to her family yet the second she recieved a higher status of power she changed her mind she went completely power hungry and showed her true colors.

The Collector also changed and grew during watching and dreaming, and nothing they did while in charge of the boiling isles had a permanent effect if i remember correctly

Also, @KingKikiHooty, it seems like you're saying that Luz defending herself from Kikimora trying to kill her is "abuse" which just doesn't make sense to me

@AnxiousChaos

1. Can I ask you something on your message wall?

2. She gets abused by Boscha and Hexside .

3. Luz asked for it she roasted poor Kikimora.

4. Belos's line to Kikimora feels like something Odalia earned rather than Kiki because Kiki didn't do anything crazy but Odalia did so the line "go find a hole to wither away in" should've gone to Odalia instead!

Also I didn't get pinged by your ping because you put a , right next to my name.

Kikimora had her chance at redemption in 2x11 and she ended up denying that chance