Bill

Do you consider Kikimora, Odalia Blight, Terra Snapdragon, Adrian Graye Vernworth and Bill the Elder to be big bad wannabes?

Adult King should step on Bill. Bill should not get un-puppeted. Bill should dissolve in boiling rain. ANYTHING FOR BILL TO DIEEE

GET A HAIRCUT BILL

So you guys thinking that why bill and tarak are doing in the archive house?

Between the event of the season two finale and season three the titan trappers arrived at the boiling isles to see the grand huntsman who believe that they will aid him against the worshippers of the titans.

But when they meet him it turn out that their god was really the child of the star who was playing with king bill and his followers was shocked and angry that he was not the grand huntsman at all and demand king to be sacrificed.

The collector however that he was mad at them because they are attempt to murder king like they did from the edge of the world so the collector turn them into puppets.

We learn that bill the elder was got what is coming from him that explains why he and tarak are puppet when king was trapped in the dreamscape.

Re-watching Edge Of The World and i realized something when Bill made his debut he was reading a book named "The Last Titan" but look into author it's Lilith's old mentor Flora D'splora why would she make a book like that is this gonna have a important role in Watching and Dreaming

DOESN’T SOME CHARACTER IN O TITAN WHERE ART THOU HAVE CRICKET’S VOICE

That’s it I’m watching TOH again ahhhhh

So, we know that the Collector and King's father have a history. The Collector always wanted to play with King, but his father wouldn't let him, likely because the Collector's games were so dangerous, and so he probably sealed the Collector away to keep King safe.

Could this have been what started the Titan Trappers? They worshipped the Collector as a god. To have King's father seal their deity away was probably the biggest blasphemy he could have committed, and that's why they started hunting Titans, eventually killing King's father out of revenge. Bill probably started all those rumors about Titans being evil tyrants to convince the Titan Trappers to keep up the cause.

Thoughts?

I remember when this show started and everyone thought King was Bill Cipher or Belos was Bill Cipher, but now, I’ll do you one better…

Bill Cipher is…

BILL!!!

Listen I know this might make me sound like a person that wanna see Hunter die. But could Bill have been right? In some sort of way? Looking through King he looks pretty nice and isn't an evil beast like Bill describes. HOWEVER, what we do know is true is that they have a large appetite and act as monarchs based on Bill knowledge and King's behavior. It seemed that the Titans had a god complex with EVEN THE BABIES acting as superior beings and the large hunger could've equated to them hunting/massacring lots of smaller living beings like witches/demons to quench it. We don't know where or how much titans eat but given its size it's definitely a lot. However, the only knowledge of Titan behavior stems from King, which is heavily biased. Think about it, King was mostly raised by Eda. If he was raised by a titan or how titans lived King would've definitely turned out A LOT different. Plus, King literally embraced being a harsh and evil ruler as an infant if it was something he'd actually enjoy and relish by instinct. Bill could've been right as some Titans were evil, and others were nicer, but the Evil ones ratioed the good ones 1-10, so that's why they they were all seen as evil.

Ok, just hear me out on this. So Bill is portrayed as being a psycho who hunts Titans and is lying about them. He claims their evil tyrants who relish in destruction and enjoy lording tyrannically over everyone. Now, looking at King, we can say that's crap. However, that's King. Could we be biased towards Bill's claims because of who King is and how we know him? What were the other Titans like?

Maybe other Titans were horrible evil beasts. Judging by the paintings on the walls of King's father's castle, it certainly supports this. King was raised by Eda, and even he was adamant about being the king of demon and an evil overlord who destroy all in his path and fill everyone with misery and woe. Now, we laugh that off because, coming from a cute child, that's adorable. King may have been "playing", but he was also serious about his claims. What would a fully grown giant tyrant who's no longer playing be like. Maybe Titans really were evil monsters who tyrannically ruled over everyone, and King is different because Eda raised him to be different, but even then his Titan nature still slips through. Bill may be a manipulative wacko and the Collector may be a sadistic lover of chaos, but there could be truth to the Titan Trappers' philosophies. Were Titans horrible, evil, bloodthirsty monsters and King is the exception?

Something to think about.