Watching and Dreaming

I never thought a show could be THIS good…… at first I thought this was just another show I would watch and then forget, but it was just so amazing! I simply love TOH, and can’t believe it’s been 6 years since luz went to the demon realm.

(I remember watching ‘for the future’ before going to my favorite musical, and watching ‘watching and dreaming’ in the airport waiting for the plane for home just a few months ago lol memories…….)

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO THE CREATOR OF THE OWL HOUSE DANA TERRACE!!! I STILL LOVE THE OWL HOUSE!!! IT'S ONE OF THE MOST MAGICAL LGBTQ CARTOONS EVER!!! 🥳🎂🎁🎉🎊🦉🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🌈

What do you think it would look like if Amity, Lilith, and Hunter were trapped in their worst nightmares like Luz, Eda, and King at the beginning of Watching and Dreaming? I thought that that was a very well-done scene in that episode, so I think that it’s interesting to wonder as to what that type of scenario could look like with the show’s main three reformed antagonists.

Obviously, this can’t take place within W&D itself, so I mainly thought of it while coming up with ideas for my own fan fiction. Since my fic has these three as the main characters, and a lot of its story begins to revolve around the Collectors by the second half, I thought that it could interesting to have a scene similar to W&D’s beginning, where they have to face their own worst nightmares, and I just wanted to briefly share some of my ideas. (For some quick context, the story mainly focuses on them exploring a distant island and eventually searching for an artefact related to the Archivists. At the climax, the main villain - a new character - manages to claim the artefact for themselves and gains powers similar to the Archivists, which they then use to trap the main characters withins nightmares based on their worst insecurities).

As for the scenarios themselves, since all three characters are reformed antagonists, one insecurity that they could share is their guilt for their past transgressions. Perhaps, all three could be forced to relive the moments that they’re most ashamed of (Amity bullying Willow, Lilith cursing Eda, and Hunter blindly following Belos) while being taunted with illusions of other characters telling them that they’ll never truly be forgiven. To take it a step further, all three could even have their appearances reverted back to how they were introduced (Amity having her green hair and mother’s amulet, Hunter having his Golden Guard uniform and magenta eyes, and Lilith having her navy hair and Emperor’s Coven attire). However, the three of them would still have their own unique conflicts represented within their nightmares too, both from previously in the show and from within this story itself.

In Amity’s case, it would be her insecurity concerning her own future and identity, so her nightmare could show her joining the Emperor’s Coven as she was originally conditioned to aspire to by her mother. Her relationships with her parents could be shown to be unchanged, with her mother still emotionally manipulating her and her father still being dismissive of her even after accomplishing what they wanted for her. Meanwhile, other characters (Edric and Emira, Willow, and Luz) could disappointedly accuse her of being nothing more than a carbon copy of her mother and/or having only changed for Luz, all of which could also play into her fear of rejection.

In Hunter’s case, it would be his lingering trauma and struggles to move on from his past, so his nightmare could show him never breaking away from Belos and continuing to follow him, possibly up until the Day of Unity. It could even play into his grief for Flapjack by having him appear as an illusion to further taunt him (I’m imaging that all of the other characters here would just be illusions this time, but that would be especially true for Belos and Flapjack, due to both characters being deceased). There could even be a moment of him falling into the pit containing the remains of the previous grimwalkers, to convince him that he’s nothing more than just another of Belos’ tools. As for other characters, there could also be a moment of Willow and Gus abandoning him for being a clone of a witch hunter, as he initially feared.

In Lilith’s case, her nightmare would still mostly be related to her guilt for cursing Eda, but it could also play into her constant need for validation. It could possibly show the two of them turning into their Owl and Raven Beast forms, but their parents only focusing on Eda, with everyone (possibly including Luz, King, and maybe even Hooty) shunning Lilith for cursing her.

As for they could break free from their nightmares, since the Titan’s glyphs would no longer work by this point, they could do so by eventually no longer engaging with the illusions, causing them to fade away. This could partially be justified by the artefact simply not being as powerful as the Archivists or even the Collector, so its illusions would be easier to overcome. However, this would also be due to the characters having previously developed past their insecurities and, while they may initially get sucked into the nightmares, they would soon grow wise to them (since King will also be a major character in this story, and I think it would be fairly redundant to give him another nightmare sequence, I originally considered having him discover his own light glyph to help free the others, but that could potentially contradict the epilogue of W&D, so it might be best to leave that out).

Sorry for the rambling. I just thought that this would be a cool idea for my story and wanted to quickly share it. But what do you think? Would it be interesting if Amity, Hunter, and Lilith got their own W&D-esque nightmares at some point or would it be a bit unnecessary?

Im going to put one of my many eyes here to watch over this fandom... kinda sad people are disappearing form here...

Noticed how the TOH Wiki doesn't have a proper render for Raine when they're back to normal but still possessed by Belos, So I quickly made this little thing and I hope y'all like it.

(Really hope this is in the right part of the TOH Wiki)

Couldn't the Collector instead of re-puppeting Lilith for Eda's nightmare of family rejection, why not have the sisters share the same nighmare.

I just realized this, but her babies are no longer babies! And look at those outfits. This makes me very happy and idk why.

God, I miss this show

I think it's about time I watch it again.

Two years... it's been TWO years... God I'm so old.

I still remember anxiously awaiting the finale, afraid I'd have my heart broken. Turns out my fears were unfounded, and despite how much Season 3 had to be cut down, I still felt it was a beautiful way to end the series.

No matter how many years go by, even when the day comes that it will have been a decade since this show ended, it will always hold a special place in my heart. This show reminded me that it's okay to be weird and I'll forever be grateful to it. Thank you Luz, Eda, King, Amity, Gus, Willow, Hunter, Hooty, hell, even smelly old Belos whom I love to hate, one of my personal favorite villains, thank you all for being a part of my life.

Yeah, it's not often I get mushy like this, but I'm feeling old as hell right now. Thank you for everything, TOH. And don't forget: us weirdos have to stick together!

I noticed these photos in the background of the epilogue in WAD!

A lot of focus has been put on other background photos in the epilogue, but I don't think I've even noticed these ones before.

I love the String Bean in her pumpkin costume!

And that looks like someone on Vee's baseball team lifting her up. I know Luz and Vee are on the same baseball team during the timeskip (due to other background photos) so it's probably Luz... but who knows? It kinda looks like it could be someone else?

Anyway, just thought I'd point these out in case anyone else hadn't noticed them! :)

They want to stay with each other!

It's so sweet!

[Okay, I did this like 6 months ago, but with Hunter. Any text that I type in [brackets] is just me, talking as myself--- Cal. Otherwise, anything I type I will be typing "as Luz" in the comments of this post. I'm going to try to stay as accurate and in-character as possible, so please play along as if you're actually replying to Luz. I think it will be really fun for everyone! Also, for Luz, this is an in-universe post on a forum in the Boiling Isles.]

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Hi!! I'm Luz, the human! 😄

Yeah, one of the ones who helped to save the Boiling Isles from wacky evil Emperor Belos (ugh!) and The Collector (who is actually just a really sweet kid who had some really messed-up ideas about how, like, life and death works, okay? So, if you ever see him around, try not to be too mean to him. He's just looking for friends).

I've been getting LOTS of questions from, like, LITERALLY EVERYONE I meet about how I destroyed Belos, and other random things about my life... because I guess I'm sort of famous now?? 🤷🏽‍♀️ Anyways, I wanted to make this post so that some of you guys can just ask me questions here instead of like, when I'm on a date with my girlfriend. So ASK AWAY!!! ✨

(But please, nothing too private! I know some of you still want to eat me, so I'm not telling you my home address!!)